Seven Democrats and How To Debate Them

Important Disclaimers – Please Read

Francis Underwood for President
Francis Underwood for President!

First, I am indebted to Mr. Matthew Desmond, whose article “The Seven Types Of Republicans And How To Debate Them” served as inspiration for this post.

OK, a bit more than inspiration – I outright copied him for most of this post. As I was reading his original article, I thought “Hey! All you have to do is replace ‘Republican’ with ‘Democrat,’ adjust the examples, and you’d have the same article from the opposite viewpoint!”

So, that’s what I did; I copied the entire article and made the proper adjustments to reflect a conservative viewpoint (as seen by an Independent).

Second, I intend this as an Onion-esque “report.”

Do Not Take This Seriously!

Third, for the sake of honesty, let me clarify my political position: I am an independent and think both major political parties need a time-out for several decades. Combine the two articles and you’ll understand what it’s like as an Independent ignored by both parties (except when convenient, of course).

Enjoy.


 

The Seven Types Of Democrats And How To Debate Them

Anyone discussing politics with a Democrat recognizes that there are a wide variety of Democrats, each possessing their own debating style. In this article, I attempt to break down the basic types of Democrats, the obvious flaws in their views, and how you can best debate them. I’ll start with the most intelligent and work my way down.


 

Educated Democrats are the rarest of all Democrats. Occasionally you find one in public or in an online forum. These Democrats can be the most difficult to deal with. They know everything there is to know about their position… from a Democratic perspective. They’ve educated themselves on all the reasons why their position is correct, and are not concerned with anything that contradicts their beliefs.

The problem with this type of Democrat’s views:

Anyone with the Internet and five minutes can find something that thoroughly discredits their version of the “facts.” Even when confronted with contradictory facts, they continue to fall back on their original arguments; try to change the subject to something they are more comfortable talking about, or start expressing opinions with no factual merit.

What to remember when debating them:

Keep them on-topic. Don’t let them ignore your counterpoints and then change the subject on you. They’re masters of that, but if you can keep them on topic, eventually they will just start expressing opinions to which you can say “do you have any facts to back that up?”

Educated Philosoraptor talks Democrats


Media Democrats are the angriest group of Democrats. They watch television and think it makes them an expert on politics. The only knowledge they have of politics are parroted talking points without any facts to back them up. When you defeat them in debate, they will resort to calling you names like “conservative,” “bigot,” “woman-hater”; “racist,” etc. They think all conservatives want to take their money and give it to big business, especially oil.

The problem with this type of Democrat’s views:

They have no idea what they are talking about. Usually they’re just repeating things they’ve heard from Anderson Copper, Brian Williams, or Piers Morgan (a British national who has neither a stake in nor an understanding of American government). They think that all conservatives want to restrict their freedoms and clearly don’t know what the word “conservative” means, or what conservatives have contributed to our country and our freedoms. They think President Obama is comparable to Jesus (or his non-religious equivalent) for passing healthcare reform. They accuse you of watching FOX News if you don’t agree with them. They call you ignorant but expect you to blindly believe everything they tell you, without question.

What to remember when debating them:

Keep demanding facts from them to back up their assertions until they break down and call you any of the aforementioned names. Ask them to name specific freedoms that conservatives have taken from them. They have a tendency to record your conversations and take your words out of context, so be aware of recording equipment when debating them face to face.

Dave Granlund You Lie Cartoon


Atheist (or non-religious/non-practicing) Democrats are hypocrites. They do everything in the name of humanity, while simultaneously acting as inhuman as possible. They deny basic rights, such as freedom of religion and the right to be born.  They think guns are evil and would strip Americans of their right to self-expression . They claim the Bible depicts Christ as a liberal who was opposed to capitalism and violence while completely ignoring the fact that he never spoke in favor of any political ideology and advocated civil disobedience (c.f. Romans 13). They sincerely believe that Christianity had a negative (or zero) impact on America and think we should give up national sovereignty to the United Nations . They label everyone who doesn’t agree with them as “bigoted, ” “racist,” or “__________-phobic”. They cannot understand the difference between tolerance, acceptance, and love.

The problem with this type of Democrat’s views:

They do terrible things in the name of science or humanity. They think that anyone who doesn’t agree with them hates them. They believe that America was never a Christian nation even though the Founding Fathers and the Documents of Freedom are heavily influenced by the Bible. The Founding Fathers wanted a country of religious freedom free from religious persecution, but these Democrats do their best to marginalize and politically persecute religion – especially fundamentalist Christianity.

What to remember when debating them:

There’s a list of quotes that show our Founding Fathers wanted a country influenced by religion. For those Democrats that claim to be Christian, ask them questions like “how would Jesus feel about killing babies?” or “how would Jesus feel about someone failing to protect their family?” For those that are non-religious, ask “if you REALLY think America isn’t the best country in the world, why don’t you live somewhere else?” or “If other countries are doing it better, why do they have the same problems we do – or worse?” Of course, these questions should yield a response that thoroughly proves that they are hypocrites, and continuing to argue with them would be a waste of time.

Atheist Meme


Occupy Democrats are a dumbed-down combination of the previous two groups of Democrats. They think Joe Biden is intelligent and it’s the media filter’s fault that he looks so stupid. They think Clinton was fiscally responsible even though he borrowed money to balance the budget. They watch CNN religiously, and think main-stream talking heads are credible. They don’t understand why people think they’re racist when they claim only whites are racist. They support the Affordable Health Care Act and higher taxes for the wealthy,  even though government waste and inefficiency are at record levels. They fail to see how corporate tax breaks creates jobs.

The problem with this type of Democrat’s views:

They parrot Brian Williams, Anderson Cooper, and Piers Morgan talking points. When you discredit one thing they say, they immediately move on to the next subject. Anyone who doesn’t agree with them is ignorant. They fail to see that their system of government mimics socialism.  They think government can provide the answers to all of societal ills; they want no personal responsibility.

What to remember when debating them:

They have no idea what they’re talking about. Ask them to prove what they are saying. If you ask them a question and they respond with another question, refuse to answer their question until they answer yours. Don’t back down. Remind them that conservative fiscal policies were responsible for the economic booms of the past. If debating them in public, be careful because they are known to surreptitiously record conversations with intent to twist words, so be aware of any recording devices (including phones) when debating them in places like parks, bars and churches (if they deign to enter one).

Occupy Cartoon


Party Democrats think that Obama is an inclusive President despite all evidence to the contrary. They blame all of Obama’s failures on George W Bush. They are sore losers because Bush won the elections of 200 and 2004. They think that Obama won the 2012 election fairly and voter fraud is a myth, despite some districts reporting over 100% voter turnout without a single vote for Romney. They were anti-war when Bush was President; they have backed Obama’s foreign policy to the letter. They willfully ignore scandals such as Benghazi, the Fast and the Furious, the NSA, and the IRS. They will never support a conservative, even if he/she paid off the entire national debt and passed universal healthcare.

The problem with this type of Democrat’s views:

They think Obama, Clinton, Kerry, and Biden are infallibly credible. They fail to see that Obama is one step away from socialism. They think increasing the national debt ceiling is fiscally responsible. They love pointing out flaws in the Republican camp while ignoring the scandal and division in their own tent.

What to remember when debating them:

Don’t waste your time. You could wave Benghazi security footage and NSA internal emails until the cows come home. They are blind to reality and will never be happy unless a Democrat is president. Have them read the Constitution or news accounts of guns saving lives. Show them how fiscal conservatism has helped grow America. This is the best way to get them to go away.

Democratic Party Pickets


[DISCLAIMER: I am putting this one almost last for a reason. I do NOT think all Democrats are racists. I have Democratic friends who are not racist. This section is only about the small percentage of Democrats who are ACTUALLY racist, because they do exist. I’m not “playing the race card” or “race-baiting,” I’m just describing a small group of racists who also affiliate themselves with the Democratic Party]


 

Racist Democrats hate whites because they’re white. They think whites owe something to make up for past wrongs. They desire not equality, but an inequality where whites are marginalized. They think that all Christians are racist terrorists. They think anyone who is from the South or owns a gun is a racist. Anyone who disagrees with anyone who is not white is a racist.

The problem with this type of Democrat’s views:

They only think whites are racist. They think racism only counts if it’s racism practiced by the political majority. Whenever they possibly can, they will call you a racist, to hide the fact that they are actually racists.

What to remember when debating them:

They’re racists. Racists are uneducated bigots. You would have a much easier time convincing an apple tree to start growing oranges.

Racist-Woman-Hater Cartoon


Extremely Uneducated Democrats are Democrats because they think it’s cool. They have a Democratic friend in one of the other groups listed, so they think they know what they’re talking about. They have terrible spelling and grammar but they expect you to believe whatever they say because they are saying it to you.

The problem with this type of Democrat’s views:

It’s hard to tell if they ever made it past the 4th grade. Most of their posts are illegible. They don’t know anything about their position other than what they have heard their friends say. They think Democrats help society because they say that they do, and call anyone who doesn’t agree with them “heartless.” They ignore all historical information that is contradictory to what they say. They are 100 percent blind to facts.

What to remember when debating them:

No amount of facts or logic will ever convince them that their buddies are wrong. You could be a college professor and they will still think your facts aren’t credible. Instead of trying to argue with them, try explaining algebra to your dog. I’m sure it will be much more productive.

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A Visit from Saint Nicholas

Clement Moore perpetrated a great crime against Church history when he penned and published the poem “A Visit from Saint Nicholas” in 1823. The mostly-benevolent Church Father known as Saint Nicholas of Myra was replaced with a magical man and equally magical reindeer who should – according to the laws of physics – immediately burst into flames and crash back to earth in a flaming ball of death and destruction the moment they attempt takeoff, simultaneously wiping out elven workshops and delivering barbecue to the North Pole. (I can only imagine Saint Nicholas’ reaction to this development . . .)

Therefore, in the spirit of historical accuracy (or – at the very least – greater historical accuracy than Mr. Clement’s epic failure), I present to you the real “Visit from Saint Nicholas.”


A Visit from Saint Nicholas

‘Twas the First Council of Nicaea, when all through the Church
Every Christian was stirring, and starting research.

Council of Nicea Sistine Chapel
The search for Truth, that is.

The Church Fathers had chosen their sides with great care,
For Nicholas of Myra soon would be there;

Nicholas of Myra
^ [this guy] ^

The Elders were settled all smug in their doctrine,
While allegations of heresy swarmed like a toxin;

Coptic Gnostic Cross
Gnosticism
Just say NO!

Constantine in his robes and Bishops in caps
Were just praying the Church wouldn’t collapse.

Great Schism Map
But it almost did . . . 1,000 years later.

When out of debate there arose such a clatter,
All heads turned around to see what was the matter.

Away to the Council I flew like a flash,
Threw open the doors and stopped in my tracks.

The lamps in their sockets were all aglow,
Giving lustre of mid-day to objects below,

Well, duh. That’s what lamps are for, right?

When, what to my wondering eyes should appear,
But a lively Church Council – no longer austere –

And a stately Church Father, so lively and quick,
I knew in a moment it was Bishop Nick.

Nicholas of Myra
^ [this guy] ^
in case you needed reminding

More rapid than eagles his discourses came,
And he whistled, and shouted, and I heard him proclaim:

“The deity of Christ cannot be refuted;
Equality with the Father cannot be disputed!”

From the back of the pack there came a loud call:
“That’s not what I think; no, not at all!”

Arius
Enter Scumbag Arius

As dry leaves that before the wild hurricane fly,
When they meet with an obstacle, mount to the sky;
So up to the naysayer Bishop Nick flew,
With a fist full of fury (and righteous wrath, too).

real santaAnd then, in a twinkling, I heard a great “Oomph!
We’re lucky that Nick didn’t kill the poor doof . . .

Constantine and the Bishops all gathered around,
And kicked Nick to the curb like an unwanted hound.

He was thrown into prison and stripped of his office,
His pallium confiscated – so were his Gospels.

Not quite the Santa you remember, is he?

He was left with only the clothes on his back –
Even a beggar had more in his pack.

But his eyes—how they twinkled! his dimples how merry!
His cheeks were like roses, his nose like a cherry!
His droll little mouth was drawn up like a bow
And the beard of his chin was as white as the snow.

Nicholas of Myra
artistic liberty taken

Arius was in favor of kicking his teeth,
But he was outvoted and started to seethe:

“Nick doesn’t deserve proper food for his belly,
Why don’t we just kill him? Someone, please tell me!”

Arius
Typical Arius . . .

It was then that they learned just how wrong they all were –
It all happened so fast, it seemed like a blur:

Christ and the Virgin visited his bed
– are we really quite certain this wasn’t all in his head? –

They restored his belongings and sent him to work
Helping poor children and building the Church.

Saint Nicholas Before and After
Before and After

And laying his finger aside of his nose,
And giving a nod, he walked down the road.

He rallied his strength, to his team gave a whistle,
And strait away they read from the Missal,

But I heard him exclaim, ere he trod out of sight,
“I’ll mess you up, too, should we get in a fight.”

Nicholas-Awkward-Meme


Some Notes on Historical Accuracy

Obviously, I have taken some artistic license. In some cases I was just too lazy to come up with anything thought the original worked just fine. For your consideration:

The Constantine mentioned here is Constantine I, founder of New Rome (aka Byzantium, Constantinople, and Istanbul).

Despite my caption, Arius may or may not have been a scumbag. He did, however, believe that Jesus Christ was inferior to God the Father, while Nicholas believed that Jesus was equal to God the Father. Hence, their disagreement.

By all accounts Arius was speaking when Nicholas couldn’t take it any more and laid into him. That just didn’t work for me. Oh well, deal with it and move on.

I really don’t know how Arius reacted to getting punched in the face. His response is based on what my reaction would have been. Honestly, how would you have reacted?

Although I have Nicholas’ followers reading from the Missal, I don’t think it existed at that time. However, neither do flying reindeer, and you probably like that poem just fine, don’t you?

Anyway, now you have a semi-historical background for the real Nicholas. Combat ignorance and share it!

Krampuskarte
Eine Krampuskarte.
Just because.

Historical Puns (vol. 1)

 

Prepping my new Western Civ lectures.

I can’t cover everything about the ancient Near East, so I guess I’ll have to Sumerize.

 

  • I’d Ur on the side of caution!

 

  • Your students might complain, “Egypt me!”

 

  • The next punster to make a crack like that gets a Shinar.

 

  • What if I just Babylon?

 

  • This whole thread Israel dumb.

 

  • Good luck in your Akkad-emic endeavor!

 

  • I’m sure it will be Assyria-s discussion.

 

  • Are you bringing sandwiches? Bring me a Hammurabi mad at you.

 

  • Amorite with PB&J . . .

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